JC & POLY students
a few days ago was reading kh's blog and knew abt this recent hot topic that an arrogant jc student started off.
tonight was surfing online and found out this!
sorry but personally, i really find him arrogant, childish and thinks too highly of himself. in whole, he's just lacking of life experiences and stil boasting about how great he is, simply lookin down on people.
*warning: it's a very very long post.*
here it goes:
Redpony: The fact that we can do better in all the exams up till now means that we have a better learning ability than the rest of you. We still do well in subjects we don't like. Put an average JC student in a poly and he'll ace everything. HTML? Teach it to any JC student and he will definitely master it in less than half the time poly people take. I don't see how the poly kids can ever do better than any jc boy when they can't even do well for the O Levels. O Levels is just elementary stuff. Simple maths, simple science and basic mastery of your languages.
n34tsd: It's wrong of you to stereotype that poly students are dumb, childish, and can't make it to JC. I was from poly and am doing well in the university now. Who are you to call other people stupid, mindless and childish? You are being childish and pretty mindless in doing that. No one has the right to call anyone else stupid - you may be smart in your studies, but how street smart or how good are you in hands-on work?
Redpony: Why are you getting so upset over the things I said? The truth hurts doesn't it? I really wish I have as much time as the rest of you. Poly people have all the time. Like you need to put in any effort to get a diploma. LOL. I can't maple as much. I'm just browsing the forums and doing my work at the same time.
GospelFlame: Me upset? Nah, im just amazed about how your mind thinks. Such arrogance.
Quoted From : http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfriendly/0,4139,104850,00.html
This was the result of a post on the buying and selling of zombie maps in MapleStory. For those who do not know what MapleStory is, its a MMORPG or something like that. Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. Actually, am done flaming, mostly verbally to my own pals. So i'll just post up the entire conversation in the forums for everyone's sake.
http://forums.asiasoft.net/thread.asp?qid=676659&page=1
redpony : For those who are used to playing in the mornings(the uni people and the working class), the reason why you see ksing is because the polys are having their holidays now and who doesnt know that alot of the poly people are just stupid, childish and mindless kids. I'm just waiting for them to go back to school. All the maps will be peaceful and conflict free in the mornings again. Yea. There's no such thing as map ownership. But, all you kids should know it's almost impossible to get an empty zombie map by 9am. So, why try? There is no need to jump into the map I'm training on and start killing my spawns when I'm handling the spawn very well. If you cant get a zombie map, too bad. Go to the hectors map then. Or try somewhere else. In my opinion, the map selling keeps things organised on zombie maps most of the time. This is true until the kids get home from school of course. Or during school holidays when kids are on the loose.
Rambo2001 : hey. dun fame all poly student. in fact i will not ks when i ask can share?pls wor mind ur words dude. ur accusing has no base at all. wat about seo\condary school who skip scgool just to play maple?wat about people who wait for their GCE o lelevl for the past few months.use ur brain before u think.
redpony : It's based on the fact that there are more ksers in the mornings now. Whereas, there were none when the holidays were not here yet. (Yes, none means zero.)People who skip schools just to maple are the minority. How often do you run into people like that? I havent met a single one before.The results were out for more than a month, most of those who are still idling at home are those going to polys. Yes, they belong to the same category..those having their holidays and those waiting to enter polys...all kids. =p
leonzc : so from wat i see...u r saying tt there are no primary school students playing in the morning?also ...my brother whos waiting to go into army is neither going to school...nor working..so doesn't tt add to another source ? pls stop flaming poly students and call them kid.and for all i noe...for someone who can call others kid...he must b so rusty in the brain that he can't think probably...so well...guess we have to be more kind to the elderly....rite guys?
wai2 : oii.... small kids ...stop calling us a kid... n in all sort of games there will be kser around so stop flaring ur anger at us ...besides that guy anger u doesnt meant u hve to flare ur temper at the poly students....in all sort of games there will be kser everywhere ... if not happy then dun play games lor.... pls grow up la ... if u kana ks nt happy then dun play dun nd to flare ur temper at us .....
redpony : No. That is not what I am saying. I am saying that a large majority of those playing now are poly kids. Even if there are pri sch students or sec sch students playing in the mornings, they are the minority. Huh? I can think perfectly. How else would I know that most poly kids are stupid, childish and mindless? But, it's normal for you to deny that...since, you are from a poly too. Haha. Why? Can't meet the minimum cut off to enter a JC?
NickandNick : oie u think u so clever ar? flame poly sudents till lai tat. i feel tat u r looking down on poly students by saying tat we cant meet the requirements to go jc. we go poly because we made the decison ourselves just like if u made yr decison go jc. also we poly students r growing adults too our minds must have matured and y would we wan to ks for no reason. wat grudge does poly students have towards u tat u have to flame them by saying yr phrase " Can't meet the minimum cut off to enter a JC? " u say lai tat alot of poly students feel very offended if i m not wrong. oso ar y cant ksers be ppl from the U or working class. u might not know. so dun go around flaming poly students. wa lao.
redpony : That's the truth. I dont see any ksers at all during a non holiday period. Since, only the polys are having their break now, isnt it clear that the ksers are from poly?
n34tsd : Whether they are from poly or not, it's wrong of you tosterotype that poly students are dumb, childish, can't make it to JCetc. I was from poly and am doing well in the university now. I know ofmore JC students dropping out of JC or not meeting the mark to enterthe university than poly students making their way to the university.Based on the observation above, do you think it's fair for me to say that you JC people are getting more stupid and we poly students are getting smarter and better? Do your own research, newspaper have reported that more people are choosing polys even though they can make it to the JC. Either you have a traditional way of thinking that only better students get to JC or you're just not up to date with the news.I'm not saying that I'm smart or whatever, I'm just saying that youshould be more sensitive in what you say and not generalize all polystudents like that. Be more objective in what you post. Such generalization only goes to show your level of maturity.
leonzc : u got a problem red pony?and nope...i had a L1r5 of 18 so i qualify for jc so stfui wanna tell u tt i have decided on enterin poly since sec 3 and thus i didn't realli bothered with my humanity thus ending up with a d7. u got a problem with that? truth to be told..you have a big time attitude and i pity those who work with uso wat if u were frm jc (ｗｉｌｄ ｇｕｅｓｓ）dun kbkb lahu may have succed in the subject "exam" but u fail in the subject "life"
redpony : Using the school comps. Huh? The fact that we can do better in all the exams up till now, means that we have a better learning ability than the rest of you.(We still do well in subjects we dont like) Put an average JC student in a poly and he'll ace everything. HTML? Teach it to any JC student and he will definetely master it in less than half the time poly people take. I dont see how the poly kids can ever do better than any jc boy when they cant even do well for the Olevels. Olevels is just elementary stuff. Simple maths, simple science and basic mastery of your languages.
GospelFlame : Well said!And redpony, based on the 'complexity' of your sentences, i can tell you're just some nimrod who got into a lousy JC with say, 20points T____T (like that new bishan one? Im not sure, im not considering JCs so i dont really care)In age difference, well yea, you're probably much older. Sadly, your brain works like a child, too much rust up there from mapling too much? hmm?
redpony : Yes. There are some of you who got lucky and managed to meet the minimum requirement.No big deal about being in a JC. It's just a bigger deal than being in a poly. lolAttitude? Pointing out how inferior poly people are = attitude? lolWe do better in every aspect. Not just in exams. You guys get taught only to work. Do they teach you to think? lol!
Tingzu : Why is it threads with Redpony in it tend to go into the jc/poly elitist talk? There's something worse than being baited, it's being ignored. Anyway, like what some had said and I'm going to echo again, Gm said not encouraged, he did not say illegal or disallowed. Since there is no official confirmation, just do what you will as usual. Till they feel like making a stand on this trade.
redpony : I don't consider myself to have done very well. But, my L1R5 is still a single digit score.Why are you getting so upset over the things I said? The truth hurts does it?I really wish I have as much time as the rest of you. Poly people have all the time. Like you need to put in any effort to get a diploma. lol. I cant maple as much. I'm just browsing the forums and doing my work at the same time.
finaldiame : inferior? what abt the ones who opt for poly? wait till you fail your a'lvls, we'll see where you'll end up.
redpony : lol. Just cant stand it when poly people think they're so good. They're just 2nd class as compared to jc people, even the average jc students. 3/4 of poly people cant meet the min. entry req. for JCs anyway. What is there to brag about?Doing well in a JC is like getting the first postion in a top class. Doing well in poly is like getting first in the last class. You are just competing with the lousy people, it's not hard to do well. JC > poly anyday.
redpony : That's quite hard to do. I dont think I'm capable of failing.
MosRetard : First, you go http://forums.asiasoft.net/thread.asp?qid=680733&page=3Then, Click Start>Shutdown>Ok
sharf : All people are created equal. Input = output.I'm neither from JC nor Poly, but from ITE. From primary school I have endured the elitist mindset from P5 up till now.Why, even if I finished top of O levels, I'd still choose to go to poly. Poly has specialization that JCs lack.
redpony : Ok. I'm wrong to say ALL are stupid, mindless and childish. Some of them are alright. But, MOST are not, they are stupid, mindless and childish. Huh? Yes. I know of people who drop out of JCs because they're not good enough. Dropping out of JC is pretty rare. I havent met a single dropout myself. For my JC, I dont think we will see more than 1 drop out every 2 years. Anyway, those who drop from jcs can still go to polys. (See that? Those who fail it in JCs can still go to polys and come out with a diploma)Good to hear that you made it to a uni. Which uni/course are you in? My seniors at NUS dont know of more than 5 poly kids in their lecture group of 500 people. That is just plain sad. Yes. More people are applying for polys. But, it's the same for JCs. More people are entering JCs too. That's the reason why they have 2 new JCs out very recently. Cant be that they're building more JCs when the number of people going to JCs is decreasing right? What I said is still right. Although more of those who can enter JCs are applying for polys, that doesnt mean that the number of people meeting the cut off and entering JCs is decreasing. (The reports are based on last year's intake. Last year was the intake for the dragon year people. More people applying for every single school. Even the ITEs experience a larger intake too) 3/4 of those in polys are still those who dont make the minimum cut off to enter a JC. Even if the poly kids do make the min. cutoff, they are those with 18-20 points. Pointing out the reason why some people are inferior is not a sign of being not mature. I am not generalising. I didnt say that ALL poly people are like that. I'm saying most. I am right when I'm saying most.
redpony : Dont look at it like JC is the last destination for us. JC students move on to unis. You cant get the "specialization" that unis have from the polys.
redpony : hFSADFDdddfds=[. I replied to everything. lol.
n34tsd : First of all, you're contradicting yourself. In the 1st line ofyour reply, you said that you were wrong to say All are stupid,mindless and childish. In the last line, you're saying that you did notmake that statement.Secondly, who are you to call other people stupid, mindless andchildish. You are being childish and pretty mindless in doing that. Noone has the right to call anyone else stupid, you may be smart in yourstudies, but how street smart or how good are you in hands-on work?Thirdly, I'm from NUS / Computer Science. You say that your seniorsdon't know more than 5 poly students in their lecture group of 500people. Do they know all 500 of them? In my tutorial groups, I wouldsay most of them would have at least 5 - 6 poly students, out of an avgof 20 people.Lastly, how do you know that poly students that do make the cut offpoints of JC are only those with 18-20 points? Again, you're justgeneralizing. Many, and I emphasize, many poly friends I know of,including those from my batch and myself, have a L1R5 of less than 12.Some with even 1 digit. Tell me, where did you get your informationfrom? Do you know the actual scores of these poly students? Please donot make baseless assumptions.Which JC are you from anyway? And stop calling poly students as polykid. You're not older than any of them, therefore you're a kid as well.You think that by being 'smarter' are better, you're not a kid?Honestly, your behaviour is no where near a young adult and it'sdisgraceful to your JC and yourself.In any case, this shall be my last post to you. Any future post to someone like you is simply degrading myself
redpony : I'm not contradicting myself. You know what I mean and that is good enough.Why cant I be saying that they are stupid, mindless and childish? Anyone can make a judgement. Comp science isnt THAT great, you know? Considering the last intake only required people to get 3 Cs to enter. No, I do not think they know everyone in the lecture group. But, one of them has access to the data of all the students and you can easily tell whether someone is poly/jc just by looking at the year they're born in. You have more poly people in your course probably because you're in a not-so-good course in the first place. Sorry to say that.Whether I'm generalizing or not, the fact is that most poly students do not make the min cut off to even enter a JC. Go to STI and read the article they had.(article came out 1 day after the olevel results were released) Even if some of them manage a single digit R5, it's still rare to find someone with that kind of score in a poly. I'm in a top Jc. That's all you need to know. Pointing out that someone is inferior doesnt show how mature or not someone is.
redpony : Yea. Please dont reply. It's just as degrading for me, to be talking to someone inferior.
Naez : (Hey, is Buying /Selling of Zombie maps reasonable?) : Topic Poly Vs Jc , SagaDon u guys feel that u are straying away from the topic ... lol
Rambo2001 : U think JC student so good arh?in fact they are worst. they cant even think logically.only know how to memorise books. next time become dog in office la. ppls ask u do this u go do this.poly is about practical work wheras jc is more to memorising work.so wat if you are good in memorising but you mind is not flexible? u still lose out.**** pissed off see wat redponny reply. u jc so wat? big fark arh?
Rambo2001 : fark u redponny.wanna compare result or not?i got 9 points L1R5 i go poly. mai flame poly.i think u more stupid than me. cannot think flexibly.u wat ign arh?
Rambo2001 : use ur brain before u post anything in future.do you know that when u complete poly u can dirext to 2nd year university if ur rersult good?i bet u dun know cause u never use brain and dunno the fact wellgo and find out more information befotre u say. nbcb.if i meet u on the street i will beat u up man. u think JC good arh. see who can earn more la in future. leave ur ign la. scared ppl go ks u arh for flaming so much in forum.
leonzc : rambo, the main purpose he is flaming the poly is to get us all flaring madso why let him have his way, just let him bno matters how rite u r, he will just keep stating the same old stastic or smth, and nth new will come out now,u can nv teach a old dog new tricks can u?besides, if we look at the whole scencrio frm a thrid person view and not let anger cloud our judgement,we wld find that the problem wld b redpony's personalityand so wat may had caused this?frm wat i noe, i believe that such patients may veri well b veri ugly or well just unpleasant in some way that make him feel inferior as compared to others. to compensate for that and to regain his self confident, he might had decided to start flamming others in order to regain it, for in the virtual world, his physcial apperance wld not be seen by others and thus he wld be able to talk freely.and ya, look at yeoz's siggy i like what it says"A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility"feel free to reply mii guys, anyone...anyone but you redpony.well if u realli dun understand english then i guess we have no choice
rambo2001 : yea. should calm down.i gonna ask him to get new stastic.
hanqingliew : I'm a reporter from The New Paper and I received an email from someone who posts on this forum. I am working on an article, and would like to get in touch with you, redpony, because I need your views on this poly student issue. If you are courageous enough to take your stand publicly with your views, please do get back to me at hanqing@sph.com.sg. Thanks for your time, cheers.
n34tsd : I would love to read that article and see how the public view people like him. Let us know when it's out ok?
sharf : OOh, TNP is my papers, heh. Anyway, Do tell us when this article will come out, yeah? I'd be so interested to see the article. Can't stand people with elitist mindsets.Oh, dear Mr Journalist (don't know how to address you), you may be interested in seeing more of his 'views' on another thread, which can be found here: http://forums.asiasoft.net/thread.asp?qid=680733
Jesboo : Haha, rofl after reading all the flaming.i suppose we shd simply direct all the misgivings n grieviances to the individual involved. There's no use in sterotyping and getting everybody hyped up over the hot air. I graduated from a top 5 jc so you can say that i've " been there, done that". I'm now on a full scholarship in UK so I'm not the just some random dude who couldn't excel in the JC and now hate the system. Not trying to show off, but backing up my credentials.What I want to say is, there's black sheep amongst every crowd, so if you say there's a higher KS-ing incidence now, its well within comprehension since those egocentric arrogant people are having holidays too.BUT, DON NOT STEREOTYPE and blame it all on poly students! And poly students are by no means inferior! I have lots of friends from poly and I respect the skills n intellect that they hav. ( My lovely gf is fr poly too <3> avg poly pay for sure.
bunnie : would love to see redpony on the papers! Or will he hide behind the computer screen madly repeating his fluffy silly elitist views on the forum yet again? Guess its the latter
redpony : I dont think it's a real journalist anyway. All the info you need is already here. If you require anything, just get them from my posts.
hanqingliew : Hi Sharf, would you like to present your views too? I can be reached by email at hanqing@sph.com.sg - Would like to set up a phone interview too, if possible. tks.
n34tsd : Ok guys, let's chill. It's not getting anywhere anyway. Remember at 1 point of time when we were young and we used to think that JCs are for the better ones? Well, we all grew up and know that it isn't true. Some of us just takes a longer time to grow up and realize that.Oh, and erm redpony, please try not to reply to this post. It's for mature audience only. It's something you wouldn't be able to comprehend that easily. And FYI, I skipped a year in NUS.
Rambo2001 : wise up dude. get the fact right.u graduate from JC and i from Poly. we go find work. see who pay higher..medecine is offered in poly courselaw in temasek poly.JC GOT OFFER MEH?? STUPID FARKING NOOB..
Rambo2001 : lets ignore redpony post as he is childish. no ign no talk.
hanqingliew : hi n34tsd, would you be open to airing your views in the media?
GospelFlame : me upset? Nah, im just amazed about how your mind thinks. Such arrogance.
megaflare : such a issue of buying selling map could lead to so much argument, even a jounalist come, cant believe it
xXSINZXx : stop talking about kids!!!
sharf : The journalist got a tip-off from what I suppose is the public/ friend. News journalists thrive on tip-offs.
n34tsd : Hi Han Qing,if an article has to be written, I think the topic shouldn't be about poly students, but I think it should be about THE jc student. Though it is unncessary, but it'll be interesting to read. Just by looking at all the posts in response to Redpony's comments about poly students, we can see that the issue is not really about poly students. It's more on an individual's comments that most poly students are 'mindless, childish, brainless, cannot make it to jc, etc'.If you plan to write it, maybe you can get quotes or your data from the posts in this thread. I'm sure the data present should be quite accurate and substantial, since those people who post comes from a good mix of ITE, poly and university students. Possibly some from the working class as well. However, if you're bounded by rule that primary research (in this case, an interview) is required, then there's little you can do, since the main topic in question doesn't believe that you're a journalist. But it's just as well, there's no point in blowing it up to the public anyway.But it would be interesting to know how people would respond to such comments, especially from people like JC, poly and university lecturers. Who knows, it could create such a stir that it might just be the next big thing in 2006; "The Redpony Saga", or even a topic in the coming GP paper! Haha, i'm just crapping here
sharf : Most people won't think I'm from ITE, someone once PMed me in the game to say that I'm a liar, ITE people English where got so 'powderful'. Such is a stigma often attached to people that is hard to get rid of.. no matter what has been done, some people will still think that one thing is superior to another, when in actual fact it isn't.She's a real journalist, BTW. Check the new paper.
Evean : So can i direct a question to redpony, How about those who qualify to go to JC yet end up going into Poly? What do you say about them?What I feel that people which such thinking now adays is what the govt has brought to us. By streaming. But without streaming, We can't know who is at what standard. But becaue of this streaming, people tend to judge others that "Oh you from EM3 poor bad. lazy" but heck some EM3 students are more hardworking than those EM2 students. Same with express/N(A)/N(T) streams. Its already a mindset. Something like branding. Like what macdonalds do. Branding. =D
InuNiiChan : To Redpony,Wow... You're really harsh on Poly students... Why some students choose to go poly instead of JC? Did it occur to you that there are people who know what they want to do in the future, and they want to learn it in poly immediately, rather then waste their time in a JC? Don't just flame any poly students. I pity the JC that has to accept you into the school. As for not being able to meet the requirements of a JC? Heh, 99.6% of the students in my school qualified for JC. I scored a 9, and I'll still choose poly over JC. Many people going to JC don't know what they're going to do next time. They just study study study --- ask them what they wanna do next time, dunno.In the end, both Poly and JCs have their advantages and disadvantages. Poly teaches pracitcal stuff, to prepare a person for the working world. JC? Well, it's just a continuation from secondary life --- study and study. Just because you can't get a map in maple doesn't mean you have to start shooting your mouth off unnecessarily. If all JC students have such a stinking attitude... Haha, don't even wanna think about it... Yours sincerely,Fantillusion
drbootdisk : waaa .. reporter oso come .. .LOL wanna interview mi? ? XD lol
maybebaby : This is what I think of maple maps....... Ok, imagine you went to watch a movie. Then after the movie, usually a lot of people go to the toilets.Imagine when you get to the toilet, you see a guy/girl standing there saying "Next Floor Pls" But the toilet inside only have 1 or 2 person when there is a lot of cubicles.U go to all floors of the shopping complex and its the same.Ok Now imagine you are inside the toilet and its crowded and all the cubicles are full. U go into the only empty cubicle after the last person finished and unzip your pants, suddenly another person just come in and started unzipping his/her pants. Then you say "Ai, I was here first" Then he/she say "Like real, I was here yesterday..." Then you still stop him/her from using the cubicle and he/she ask all his/her friends and crowd into the cubicle all doing their "business" together.Then you shout for the toilet attendent. They dun care, let you all fight. After all they have to clean up the mess all of you made.I can only say, if you cannot stand the smell, get out of the toilet.
riotgurL : redpony,i couldnt bother "quoting" wad u had said...as there was too much rubbish dat u had said. heard dat u din put in ur ign... ur frens whu know u... i pity dem. ur facts about Jc n poly is SO SO SO wrong. if its not wrong... there wont be any shows or even movies on ITE. did u watched those movies anyway? or did u actually just bury urself in BOOKs. n more books.maybe u r jz stressed. too stressed and arrogant that u din realise your life is such a bore.as a matter of fact, yes, Jc students do score better in 'O' levels. but that's not all of them. there was also a portion who opt to go for poly instead of JC. y? coz they knw wad they wana 'atk' at.n u? study study study... in the end? u will get a CERT. a cert that will get burnt easily. all your knowledge is determined by that pc of paper. even u have the paper. it doesnt mean ur BRAIN and MIND is up to date. u learnt frm the past. learn frm people writes. all dead stuff. its true dat u do still learn n is knowledgeable... bt when it happens in RL. how do u cope? attachments doesnt help...not at all. yes, JC means uni. poly as well. and do u knw if poly students goes up to uni.. it means dat are pretty great... and JCs? well, ppl will jz tink its normal... and for that point.. it means NO IMPROVEMENT. u cant bring a BIG step in ur life to pove ppl wrong.n now... Jc life n poly life. Jc can have fun... bt fun with lotsa stress... poly students have lotsa too... bt u knw the diff? they have an idea abt it n knw how to RELEASE their stress.. playing some games, chilling out, club ..etc. n u? i tink u dont. u jz add stress n stress... bt u still u r v smart when u dont even know how to tackle it. we have lifes. be it social or wad. everythings amzing n fun ard us. u cant just immerse n delude yourself in your own world. thinking that u r so much better then others. u score better in languages,in maths,in subjects...i've seen dat u mentioned those. BUT, i din see u mention..sports, tackling etc. guess its just subjects. imagine when u out with ur frens..do u guys jz chat about alegbra?H2o? do u even have a gf? or do u think gf is just wasting ur time? or u cant get one? if u realli do STUDY HARD enuff. u will knw dat n realise dat... ITS NOT JUST SCHOOL DAT CAN MK U LEARN. world is full of stuff ,full of culture. u cant learn all in ur nxt 30 yrs of sch life. U GOT TO EXPERIENCE IT. someone ask u abt Niagara Falls..u might say..oh its from American Falls,Canadian Falls and Bridal falls.and dat its the last legacy of Ice age and sort of happen 18000yrs ago.den someone asked again,'oh cool! have you been there?' u said No. a adventurer will tell u wad actualli happened and how it realli felt to be there. how are the waters there like... the gush of those..the temperature. the amazing n thrills which u will never ever get from books.super duper long post... to be cont....
riotgurL : .....not to mention.. jobs offers. do u knw that some Uni students end up driving Taxis? coz they are find job? u can find easily... BUT not the high pay dat u expected. knw y? not many bosses wana hire a Uni student when they can hire a poly student with lower pay. They can afford to do so? fresh grads are expensive. and y hire when they can find sumone as gd n reliable with lower pay? so it doesnt mean u can get jobs faster. 2ndly,higher pay? dats MAYBE only. lets say u got lucky and found your job. which it may not even the one u studied for. and get a relatively high pay.with 3mths probation to pass.u studied at least 4 to 5 yrs more den poly grads..maybe more yrs. with dat amount of yrs when u r studying. those poly grads had jolly well work hard n gain so much experience dat they are ady Managers or higher. u never knw. and their pay? same as u. or higher. plus. more reputable.if u the boss, will u hire fresh uni grads, 1mth 20k no experience, or lower education grads,1mth 15k to 20k with ard 3yrs experience.WhO?this post is v long and i shall end it soon.for me, im gg to do business in the future. u may as well.. but we cld jz mk the same amt of $$$. with or without CERT. u knw why? i've got an active brain and creative cells that wun lose to a Jc student. but i cld earn so much more when u are still studying boy. i used my years to experience stuff. u use it for an un foreseen furture. FYI, my dad happen to be in diving business and he pays his divers etc ard 2k per day. n mind u...they din even finish sec sch. alot of uni grads or ppl with lotsa pro diving certs come up to my dad ask for job. bt dad jz dont hire them. y? my dad wants experience.yrs of it.. a cert cant mk sure u wun mk mistakes and able to dive deep enuff. sorry for the long post ppL~ im mainly targeting at redpony..the guy with the wrong mindset. and of coz,if ya someone who thinks like him.. READ THIS POST.oh ya! did i mention dat...if u fail ur JC, its pretty hard for u to go over again? Jc cert is like pri sch PSLE or OLvL. unless u retake..or study priv.. yrs lost again!adiOs!
leonzc : riotgurl....YOUR ROXredpony...pls dun say tt u r smartcus smart includes alot of things1 Characterized by sharp quick thought; bright.2 Amusingly clever; witty: 3 Impertinent; insolent4 Energetic or quick in movement5 Canny and shrewd in dealings with others6 Fashionable; elegant: taken from http://www.dictionary.com/1. you only knows how to refer to old stastic and nth new comes out2. Amusing? i dun think so....3. Insolent.....this i gif it to you..you r full of it4. Energetic? quick in movement.... left to be certified5. Canny and shrewd IN DEALING WITH OTHERS? dun think so....look at the way you bark at us6. fashionable? er....???you passed onli 1 out of 6 criteria....tell mii do u realli think u r smart?
sharf : PS - The article will be out tomorrow, most probably. Go grab it (when it comes out)!
leonzc : which newspaper huh?
sharf : The New Paper. Try to guess my name (if my views were used, that is, and my name is mentioned. Or just post what kind of views were by me, XD. *takes a pin and deflates oversized head*)
riotgurL : haha leon... did i say he was smart? lol..maybe i typo le la.. lol. i was trying to imply..he tink he is smart. and that... its true Jc students will be slightly better in memorising words n stuff .. but nw u listed few pts of 'smart'... i realise he belong to 1 of dem as well.. AMUSING. he is amusing...dun cha tink so? in a way that he amuse everyone abt his weird tots ..and piss dem off.or perhaps, he is trying to amuse in a way to mk ppl tink he is funny. apparently,he failed quite abit. ps; i realise he din realli response to this thread anymore... tell me redpony..have u waken frm ya dream yet?
sharf : Reality bites, hard.Anyway, for my views on the topic, I think it's fairly reasonable. I mean, if the trade goes peacefully and the seller leaves, then it ends well. People coming in to KS, that's another matter altogether.
GeneralSeth : Redpony..... you really have what the Chinese call a "lao tu" mindset.Do the jc teachers force you to think that way? Your superior attitude is making other Jc students look horrible.I should choose to go Poly then,I dont want my mind to look like a Minor Zombie.
SirBay : Medical History: currently suffering from schizophreniaAhbeng side of me talksRedPony, i read your post i hot liao...wah piang you say what... your english very powerful ah... kaoz..powderful more like it..U just portraited yourseld as a Forum poltroon vis-a-vis what you postedPlease la for god's sake stop your puerile thoughts.. they make me sneer at you onliMe from TP law course.. you where bui song u say.. i admit my maths and science might not be as just due to the plain fact that i have not touch it since my Sec sch days..But english ? languages? you want challenge me ma.. i duno whether i might win you la.. but since u so narcissistic.. that means you have the utmost confidence to trash me flat isit? Newpaper wan interview u u siam liao... not coward is wat? How i really talk in real lifeSorry about the ah beng side of me. Gosh, was it crude. Im ashamed seriously. Then again, *ponders* , it deems to be more appropriate to converse to you in such a way vis-a-vis to your attitude. Well, it just practically taints my soul to talk to you in the normal way. Crude and disrespect is what you really deserve. GOodness me, i have not met someone as puerile as you.As the old maxim goes: to err is humanWell, hearing this shouldn't we all as humans make mistakes? Shall we all forgive Redpony for his groundlesS accusations and thoughtS? Maybe you were just to chimerical and thus eager to pin your thoughts down on the forum.Well let me give u some advice.YOUR POSTS WERE GRATITOUSreally, i mean good for you.Need me to extricate you from your illness? ( i think u suffer from lack of attention )Pm : Lordbay. *always there for you* cheers
SirBay : womg... i just wasted my time reading all this posts and giving my views..Kns.. tmoro need wake up early...wah piang pls la redpony .. u hai me okie.. but bo pian.. i see u say poly students asinine i hot liao..Lol nites nites every1
finaldude : Ownageand to the opinion that JC students far outcries the knowledge of poly students is of utter dissapointment.if a JC student with a language base of yours ever getting into a JC in the first place,i fear the lack of intelligence when lil'O you gets into the working force.try being a lawyer with that level of language knowledge."your honor,if my client HoR,kill that bastard then Hor he wont come here liao Right?huh dont kpkb lar Joo!!"hey welcome into the real world when intelligence and logical thinking far outcries the need for wooo BOOKS!!*gasp*
sharf : The report is published in today's The New Paper. I'd be interested to see what the non-gaming public thinks of his comments.It's on pages 2 and 3, btw. You can't miss it.
Rambo2001 : go buy newpaper. huahuaauhahong kan all tio post....
winwin : song bo on newpaper.. grats
SilentKill4r : Firstly it's all based on the players' discretion to buy/sell maps. But logically.. Being MASSIVE Multiplayer ORPG.. Its been stated to be massive players online at the same time... So Ksing is inevitable.. No use discussing.. Cause not everyone bides the LAW or RULES.. Btw I personally feel that maps should not be owned.. You could kindly ask the person to change channel but u cannot make him.. Its not your map.. neither it is the person's so... You should try to share.. Maybe each a corner or what? But please don't make thing seemed so difficult for everyone by spamming insults and doing things like defame or calling friends to disturb the person's training... Btw.. The Definition of KSing - when a person attacks a mob first, and u killed it after. Thats KSing.. But if u realised.. Alot of unintentional KSing has taken place.. Because sometimes you can't see the person there.. So why not just be kind and back off and remind the person gently. It would be so much better? Btw this WAR against poly students show u are immature and ignorant.. No discrimination should be held here.. So what if poly students are not so good in academic results? Some have been proven to be more wise in the ways of life.. If you (Redpony) are so stucked up, i bet you would have problems surviving in such a society.. Eg... Offending people like this could get u hacked... i mean in RL.. KILLED BY A Chopper.. If your identity is exposed.. So whos the smart one or the stupid one now? And please dun call urself a JC-Student.. Because even other JC studens are not on ur side.. so u are not representing all JC student.. Get it? You cretin..
Night : post more leh, maybe can get another article in Straits Times tomorrow
soh89 : JC got books meh? LOL. jc system is based on lectures and tutorial, similar to poly. in fact we only get a few notes that we have to study ourself from our sources. totally pre-u work. and are u trying to say university does not teach us to think logically? den where all the research come from? plagarise frm book n internet? im not against poly but poly are for ppl who have set their aims earlier and have decided what they wanna do next time with their diploma. in fact, poly is more technical den jc and u say jc ppl can't think logically? see who get to university easier. see who get the course of their choice easier. see who have more options next time with a degree and maybe even doctorate compared to diploma.
ppl say u nia u wan beat them up. u trying to show tt all poly students are hooligans like you? compared to the real hooligans out there ur only a baby.
soh89 : ppl can be anywhere. you can be 6-pointer yet u study in polyyou can be 20-pointer yet u wan go lousiest jcit all boils down to how u respect each others choices. there are pros and cons to jc and poly, but if u start to flame about the bad side of the other course, u will get flamed back also. so what if poly get better pay, tt's only the beginning. graduates eventually get even better pay, but they have to afford the long education that they go thru first, whereas poly, even though ex, ppl can start work with a decent salary.also, ppl don't look at ur diploma/degree/cert. its so bloody common that the employers can close one eye can pick out anybody. u have to go thru interviews, and they see ur attitude and ability, plus the results in ur diploma/degree/cert itself. if ur in jc u dun work hard, u dun go to uni and ur time is wasted. if ur in poly u dun work hard lagi best, ur money more wasted. who says jc dun think u to think logically. general paper and project work are key components of university requirements. so many ppl hate it cuz they are forced to think too logically
soh89 : back on topic.this is MapleSEA. south east asia. encompassing mostly of malaysian and singaporeans. majority singaporean. whatever i gonna say later involves only majority of the singaporeans so if ur an exception dun kpkb. our singaporean culture does not teach us how to really respect each other. unlike in japan and JMS where the tradition there is based on mutual respect and harmony, here is just kiasu-ism and wanting to exploit others to get to the very top. so what happens? u get into a zombie map u dun wan to lose it because if u do, u lose both exp and money. everybody wants to train at zombie but there is no space as ppl are hogging the map like crazy. eventually bunch of gl kias will go in ks cuz nobody will be willing to share and even if u walk past, u get a cc pls, which sparks further ks -.- IF wizet were to release ludi, i think the problem would be mostly solved. the high levels move out of zombies into bain, whereas bainers move into vikings. more helios will be dropped so i can get one for myself =x. less crowded at zombie and more ppl can use the map to train. furthermore maybe its the wrong time to release 2x EXP card when majority are at lvl 5x, reaching lvl 6x. the demand for zombie map will rise like crazy, and as more ppl approach lv 9x, bain gets clogged and no choice still have to stick to zombie. no map, got card, our poor attitude and dun wan to share, a useless swimming pool under orbis tower: KS at zombie map and this thread.
Foxmaniac : Well...all i can say is that redpony sounds more like a three year old rather than a jc student. JC and poly...what's the difference? JC focus more on studies while poly helps u adapt faster to the work force.
me0wie : notice tt the redpony guy is gone? hahahhahaa, he's better not ever let ANYONE find out his ign in game, otherwise, he shall DIE IN HELL!Hasn't he realized that tertiary education concludes JC, Poly, etc. And a poly student actually earns more compared to a JC student. If you graduate from poly, u have a DIploma. If you graduate from JC without going to Uni, you have NOTHING.
XuHuang : Must post in legendary topic. Now that that has been settled, let me make one thing clear first.REDPONY, YOU SIR, ARE GOING TO BURN IN A LAKE OF FIREAlright. I feel that buying and selling maps is an atrociously stupid system. Whoever even thought of such a stupid idea should be shot where it hurts most. Anyone following this will just spread it even more, letting others think it is alright to deal maps.This is just like the "oi dun kil baby sliem lol bad item i kik u" thing, which sparked from one stupid moron. Just one person alone can screw up everything by making other weak minded people follow.So, in all, people who follow this rule should die. If you need to train at zombies, learn to share or go somewhere else. ===About the Poly/JC argument, again sparked of by a single nincompoop, I feel that each will take their own sides, so here's what I have to say.You are all stupid. Especially you redpony, whose name does not follow the proper naming conventions. What kind of male likes ponies anyway? You wanna hump a pony? Once again, I hope you burn, burn in the flames of your own stupidity.I say what I want, the end.
demonboi : End up in newspaper eh?Pls mr redpony...come on..wads the use of calling poly childish,immature..bla bla bla..will u gain anything in return???you're onli making a fool out of yourself..Thats what i called "childish and immature"
Terroz : Wah, quarrel until offtopic, now attacks from a so called SMART jc student on poly. Well its only a path for students to choose.Anyway, back to the topic. Most people who do NOT support the buying and selling of map do not train at zombie, most people do NOT know the high demand of zombie maps. I use to train there too, it use to be around 400k max for a map 4, now it can soar as high as 1 million. If there isnt such an "ownership" of map where by it follows the saying of "first come first serve", then maple would be in total chaos. There would be disrupted gameplay and there would be several people hitting in every maps (not only zombie). If you just start hitting at "others" map, they might call friends, guilds down to chase you everywhere around maple and make sure you cannot train. Whats the point? Follow the unofficial rules of Buying and Selling of maps and you would be a good maple citizen. Those that discourages buying and selling of maps, maybe someday i would track you guys and see if youre alone at the map. Maybe i could bring lots of strangers to train together with you? =D cheers (thats not a blackmail, not is it a threten, its just an opinion from MY point of view)
sharf : Wonder what Asiasoft is going to to with all this publicity, afterall, it did start right here. All the mods have been busy moving the threads related to the article to the Others section.
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seems like many people are standing against that redpony.
not surprising as a poly student myself, i feel angry with what he commented about poly students.
i mean, he certainly doesnt have the right and status to comment such stuff.
glad i chose poly life! =)
p.s. thanks for ur patience to finish this entry. i just copied and paste so sorry for the spelling/grammar errors!
tonight was surfing online and found out this!
sorry but personally, i really find him arrogant, childish and thinks too highly of himself. in whole, he's just lacking of life experiences and stil boasting about how great he is, simply lookin down on people.
*warning: it's a very very long post.*
here it goes:
Redpony: The fact that we can do better in all the exams up till now means that we have a better learning ability than the rest of you. We still do well in subjects we don't like. Put an average JC student in a poly and he'll ace everything. HTML? Teach it to any JC student and he will definitely master it in less than half the time poly people take. I don't see how the poly kids can ever do better than any jc boy when they can't even do well for the O Levels. O Levels is just elementary stuff. Simple maths, simple science and basic mastery of your languages.
n34tsd: It's wrong of you to stereotype that poly students are dumb, childish, and can't make it to JC. I was from poly and am doing well in the university now. Who are you to call other people stupid, mindless and childish? You are being childish and pretty mindless in doing that. No one has the right to call anyone else stupid - you may be smart in your studies, but how street smart or how good are you in hands-on work?
Redpony: Why are you getting so upset over the things I said? The truth hurts doesn't it? I really wish I have as much time as the rest of you. Poly people have all the time. Like you need to put in any effort to get a diploma. LOL. I can't maple as much. I'm just browsing the forums and doing my work at the same time.
GospelFlame: Me upset? Nah, im just amazed about how your mind thinks. Such arrogance.
Quoted From : http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/printfriendly/0,4139,104850,00.html
This was the result of a post on the buying and selling of zombie maps in MapleStory. For those who do not know what MapleStory is, its a MMORPG or something like that. Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. Actually, am done flaming, mostly verbally to my own pals. So i'll just post up the entire conversation in the forums for everyone's sake.
http://forums.asiasoft.net/thread.asp?qid=676659&page=1
redpony : For those who are used to playing in the mornings(the uni people and the working class), the reason why you see ksing is because the polys are having their holidays now and who doesnt know that alot of the poly people are just stupid, childish and mindless kids. I'm just waiting for them to go back to school. All the maps will be peaceful and conflict free in the mornings again. Yea. There's no such thing as map ownership. But, all you kids should know it's almost impossible to get an empty zombie map by 9am. So, why try? There is no need to jump into the map I'm training on and start killing my spawns when I'm handling the spawn very well. If you cant get a zombie map, too bad. Go to the hectors map then. Or try somewhere else. In my opinion, the map selling keeps things organised on zombie maps most of the time. This is true until the kids get home from school of course. Or during school holidays when kids are on the loose.
Rambo2001 : hey. dun fame all poly student. in fact i will not ks when i ask can share?pls wor mind ur words dude. ur accusing has no base at all. wat about seo\condary school who skip scgool just to play maple?wat about people who wait for their GCE o lelevl for the past few months.use ur brain before u think.
redpony : It's based on the fact that there are more ksers in the mornings now. Whereas, there were none when the holidays were not here yet. (Yes, none means zero.)People who skip schools just to maple are the minority. How often do you run into people like that? I havent met a single one before.The results were out for more than a month, most of those who are still idling at home are those going to polys. Yes, they belong to the same category..those having their holidays and those waiting to enter polys...all kids. =p
leonzc : so from wat i see...u r saying tt there are no primary school students playing in the morning?also ...my brother whos waiting to go into army is neither going to school...nor working..so doesn't tt add to another source ? pls stop flaming poly students and call them kid.and for all i noe...for someone who can call others kid...he must b so rusty in the brain that he can't think probably...so well...guess we have to be more kind to the elderly....rite guys?
wai2 : oii.... small kids ...stop calling us a kid... n in all sort of games there will be kser around so stop flaring ur anger at us ...besides that guy anger u doesnt meant u hve to flare ur temper at the poly students....in all sort of games there will be kser everywhere ... if not happy then dun play games lor.... pls grow up la ... if u kana ks nt happy then dun play dun nd to flare ur temper at us .....
redpony : No. That is not what I am saying. I am saying that a large majority of those playing now are poly kids. Even if there are pri sch students or sec sch students playing in the mornings, they are the minority. Huh? I can think perfectly. How else would I know that most poly kids are stupid, childish and mindless? But, it's normal for you to deny that...since, you are from a poly too. Haha. Why? Can't meet the minimum cut off to enter a JC?
NickandNick : oie u think u so clever ar? flame poly sudents till lai tat. i feel tat u r looking down on poly students by saying tat we cant meet the requirements to go jc. we go poly because we made the decison ourselves just like if u made yr decison go jc. also we poly students r growing adults too our minds must have matured and y would we wan to ks for no reason. wat grudge does poly students have towards u tat u have to flame them by saying yr phrase " Can't meet the minimum cut off to enter a JC? " u say lai tat alot of poly students feel very offended if i m not wrong. oso ar y cant ksers be ppl from the U or working class. u might not know. so dun go around flaming poly students. wa lao.
redpony : That's the truth. I dont see any ksers at all during a non holiday period. Since, only the polys are having their break now, isnt it clear that the ksers are from poly?
n34tsd : Whether they are from poly or not, it's wrong of you tosterotype that poly students are dumb, childish, can't make it to JCetc. I was from poly and am doing well in the university now. I know ofmore JC students dropping out of JC or not meeting the mark to enterthe university than poly students making their way to the university.Based on the observation above, do you think it's fair for me to say that you JC people are getting more stupid and we poly students are getting smarter and better? Do your own research, newspaper have reported that more people are choosing polys even though they can make it to the JC. Either you have a traditional way of thinking that only better students get to JC or you're just not up to date with the news.I'm not saying that I'm smart or whatever, I'm just saying that youshould be more sensitive in what you say and not generalize all polystudents like that. Be more objective in what you post. Such generalization only goes to show your level of maturity.
leonzc : u got a problem red pony?and nope...i had a L1r5 of 18 so i qualify for jc so stfui wanna tell u tt i have decided on enterin poly since sec 3 and thus i didn't realli bothered with my humanity thus ending up with a d7. u got a problem with that? truth to be told..you have a big time attitude and i pity those who work with uso wat if u were frm jc (ｗｉｌｄ ｇｕｅｓｓ）dun kbkb lahu may have succed in the subject "exam" but u fail in the subject "life"
redpony : Using the school comps. Huh? The fact that we can do better in all the exams up till now, means that we have a better learning ability than the rest of you.(We still do well in subjects we dont like) Put an average JC student in a poly and he'll ace everything. HTML? Teach it to any JC student and he will definetely master it in less than half the time poly people take. I dont see how the poly kids can ever do better than any jc boy when they cant even do well for the Olevels. Olevels is just elementary stuff. Simple maths, simple science and basic mastery of your languages.
GospelFlame : Well said!And redpony, based on the 'complexity' of your sentences, i can tell you're just some nimrod who got into a lousy JC with say, 20points T____T (like that new bishan one? Im not sure, im not considering JCs so i dont really care)In age difference, well yea, you're probably much older. Sadly, your brain works like a child, too much rust up there from mapling too much? hmm?
redpony : Yes. There are some of you who got lucky and managed to meet the minimum requirement.No big deal about being in a JC. It's just a bigger deal than being in a poly. lolAttitude? Pointing out how inferior poly people are = attitude? lolWe do better in every aspect. Not just in exams. You guys get taught only to work. Do they teach you to think? lol!
Tingzu : Why is it threads with Redpony in it tend to go into the jc/poly elitist talk? There's something worse than being baited, it's being ignored. Anyway, like what some had said and I'm going to echo again, Gm said not encouraged, he did not say illegal or disallowed. Since there is no official confirmation, just do what you will as usual. Till they feel like making a stand on this trade.
redpony : I don't consider myself to have done very well. But, my L1R5 is still a single digit score.Why are you getting so upset over the things I said? The truth hurts does it?I really wish I have as much time as the rest of you. Poly people have all the time. Like you need to put in any effort to get a diploma. lol. I cant maple as much. I'm just browsing the forums and doing my work at the same time.
finaldiame : inferior? what abt the ones who opt for poly? wait till you fail your a'lvls, we'll see where you'll end up.
redpony : lol. Just cant stand it when poly people think they're so good. They're just 2nd class as compared to jc people, even the average jc students. 3/4 of poly people cant meet the min. entry req. for JCs anyway. What is there to brag about?Doing well in a JC is like getting the first postion in a top class. Doing well in poly is like getting first in the last class. You are just competing with the lousy people, it's not hard to do well. JC > poly anyday.
redpony : That's quite hard to do. I dont think I'm capable of failing.
MosRetard : First, you go http://forums.asiasoft.net/thread.asp?qid=680733&page=3Then, Click Start>Shutdown>Ok
sharf : All people are created equal. Input = output.I'm neither from JC nor Poly, but from ITE. From primary school I have endured the elitist mindset from P5 up till now.Why, even if I finished top of O levels, I'd still choose to go to poly. Poly has specialization that JCs lack.
redpony : Ok. I'm wrong to say ALL are stupid, mindless and childish. Some of them are alright. But, MOST are not, they are stupid, mindless and childish. Huh? Yes. I know of people who drop out of JCs because they're not good enough. Dropping out of JC is pretty rare. I havent met a single dropout myself. For my JC, I dont think we will see more than 1 drop out every 2 years. Anyway, those who drop from jcs can still go to polys. (See that? Those who fail it in JCs can still go to polys and come out with a diploma)Good to hear that you made it to a uni. Which uni/course are you in? My seniors at NUS dont know of more than 5 poly kids in their lecture group of 500 people. That is just plain sad. Yes. More people are applying for polys. But, it's the same for JCs. More people are entering JCs too. That's the reason why they have 2 new JCs out very recently. Cant be that they're building more JCs when the number of people going to JCs is decreasing right? What I said is still right. Although more of those who can enter JCs are applying for polys, that doesnt mean that the number of people meeting the cut off and entering JCs is decreasing. (The reports are based on last year's intake. Last year was the intake for the dragon year people. More people applying for every single school. Even the ITEs experience a larger intake too) 3/4 of those in polys are still those who dont make the minimum cut off to enter a JC. Even if the poly kids do make the min. cutoff, they are those with 18-20 points. Pointing out the reason why some people are inferior is not a sign of being not mature. I am not generalising. I didnt say that ALL poly people are like that. I'm saying most. I am right when I'm saying most.
redpony : Dont look at it like JC is the last destination for us. JC students move on to unis. You cant get the "specialization" that unis have from the polys.
redpony : hFSADFDdddfds=[. I replied to everything. lol.
n34tsd : First of all, you're contradicting yourself. In the 1st line ofyour reply, you said that you were wrong to say All are stupid,mindless and childish. In the last line, you're saying that you did notmake that statement.Secondly, who are you to call other people stupid, mindless andchildish. You are being childish and pretty mindless in doing that. Noone has the right to call anyone else stupid, you may be smart in yourstudies, but how street smart or how good are you in hands-on work?Thirdly, I'm from NUS / Computer Science. You say that your seniorsdon't know more than 5 poly students in their lecture group of 500people. Do they know all 500 of them? In my tutorial groups, I wouldsay most of them would have at least 5 - 6 poly students, out of an avgof 20 people.Lastly, how do you know that poly students that do make the cut offpoints of JC are only those with 18-20 points? Again, you're justgeneralizing. Many, and I emphasize, many poly friends I know of,including those from my batch and myself, have a L1R5 of less than 12.Some with even 1 digit. Tell me, where did you get your informationfrom? Do you know the actual scores of these poly students? Please donot make baseless assumptions.Which JC are you from anyway? And stop calling poly students as polykid. You're not older than any of them, therefore you're a kid as well.You think that by being 'smarter' are better, you're not a kid?Honestly, your behaviour is no where near a young adult and it'sdisgraceful to your JC and yourself.In any case, this shall be my last post to you. Any future post to someone like you is simply degrading myself
redpony : I'm not contradicting myself. You know what I mean and that is good enough.Why cant I be saying that they are stupid, mindless and childish? Anyone can make a judgement. Comp science isnt THAT great, you know? Considering the last intake only required people to get 3 Cs to enter. No, I do not think they know everyone in the lecture group. But, one of them has access to the data of all the students and you can easily tell whether someone is poly/jc just by looking at the year they're born in. You have more poly people in your course probably because you're in a not-so-good course in the first place. Sorry to say that.Whether I'm generalizing or not, the fact is that most poly students do not make the min cut off to even enter a JC. Go to STI and read the article they had.(article came out 1 day after the olevel results were released) Even if some of them manage a single digit R5, it's still rare to find someone with that kind of score in a poly. I'm in a top Jc. That's all you need to know. Pointing out that someone is inferior doesnt show how mature or not someone is.
redpony : Yea. Please dont reply. It's just as degrading for me, to be talking to someone inferior.
Naez : (Hey, is Buying /Selling of Zombie maps reasonable?) : Topic Poly Vs Jc , SagaDon u guys feel that u are straying away from the topic ... lol
Rambo2001 : U think JC student so good arh?in fact they are worst. they cant even think logically.only know how to memorise books. next time become dog in office la. ppls ask u do this u go do this.poly is about practical work wheras jc is more to memorising work.so wat if you are good in memorising but you mind is not flexible? u still lose out.**** pissed off see wat redponny reply. u jc so wat? big fark arh?
Rambo2001 : fark u redponny.wanna compare result or not?i got 9 points L1R5 i go poly. mai flame poly.i think u more stupid than me. cannot think flexibly.u wat ign arh?
Rambo2001 : use ur brain before u post anything in future.do you know that when u complete poly u can dirext to 2nd year university if ur rersult good?i bet u dun know cause u never use brain and dunno the fact wellgo and find out more information befotre u say. nbcb.if i meet u on the street i will beat u up man. u think JC good arh. see who can earn more la in future. leave ur ign la. scared ppl go ks u arh for flaming so much in forum.
leonzc : rambo, the main purpose he is flaming the poly is to get us all flaring madso why let him have his way, just let him bno matters how rite u r, he will just keep stating the same old stastic or smth, and nth new will come out now,u can nv teach a old dog new tricks can u?besides, if we look at the whole scencrio frm a thrid person view and not let anger cloud our judgement,we wld find that the problem wld b redpony's personalityand so wat may had caused this?frm wat i noe, i believe that such patients may veri well b veri ugly or well just unpleasant in some way that make him feel inferior as compared to others. to compensate for that and to regain his self confident, he might had decided to start flamming others in order to regain it, for in the virtual world, his physcial apperance wld not be seen by others and thus he wld be able to talk freely.and ya, look at yeoz's siggy i like what it says"A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility"feel free to reply mii guys, anyone...anyone but you redpony.well if u realli dun understand english then i guess we have no choice
rambo2001 : yea. should calm down.i gonna ask him to get new stastic.
hanqingliew : I'm a reporter from The New Paper and I received an email from someone who posts on this forum. I am working on an article, and would like to get in touch with you, redpony, because I need your views on this poly student issue. If you are courageous enough to take your stand publicly with your views, please do get back to me at hanqing@sph.com.sg. Thanks for your time, cheers.
n34tsd : I would love to read that article and see how the public view people like him. Let us know when it's out ok?
sharf : OOh, TNP is my papers, heh. Anyway, Do tell us when this article will come out, yeah? I'd be so interested to see the article. Can't stand people with elitist mindsets.Oh, dear Mr Journalist (don't know how to address you), you may be interested in seeing more of his 'views' on another thread, which can be found here: http://forums.asiasoft.net/thread.asp?qid=680733
Jesboo : Haha, rofl after reading all the flaming.i suppose we shd simply direct all the misgivings n grieviances to the individual involved. There's no use in sterotyping and getting everybody hyped up over the hot air. I graduated from a top 5 jc so you can say that i've " been there, done that". I'm now on a full scholarship in UK so I'm not the just some random dude who couldn't excel in the JC and now hate the system. Not trying to show off, but backing up my credentials.What I want to say is, there's black sheep amongst every crowd, so if you say there's a higher KS-ing incidence now, its well within comprehension since those egocentric arrogant people are having holidays too.BUT, DON NOT STEREOTYPE and blame it all on poly students! And poly students are by no means inferior! I have lots of friends from poly and I respect the skills n intellect that they hav. ( My lovely gf is fr poly too <3> avg poly pay for sure.
bunnie : would love to see redpony on the papers! Or will he hide behind the computer screen madly repeating his fluffy silly elitist views on the forum yet again? Guess its the latter
redpony : I dont think it's a real journalist anyway. All the info you need is already here. If you require anything, just get them from my posts.
hanqingliew : Hi Sharf, would you like to present your views too? I can be reached by email at hanqing@sph.com.sg - Would like to set up a phone interview too, if possible. tks.
n34tsd : Ok guys, let's chill. It's not getting anywhere anyway. Remember at 1 point of time when we were young and we used to think that JCs are for the better ones? Well, we all grew up and know that it isn't true. Some of us just takes a longer time to grow up and realize that.Oh, and erm redpony, please try not to reply to this post. It's for mature audience only. It's something you wouldn't be able to comprehend that easily. And FYI, I skipped a year in NUS.
Rambo2001 : wise up dude. get the fact right.u graduate from JC and i from Poly. we go find work. see who pay higher..medecine is offered in poly courselaw in temasek poly.JC GOT OFFER MEH?? STUPID FARKING NOOB..
Rambo2001 : lets ignore redpony post as he is childish. no ign no talk.
hanqingliew : hi n34tsd, would you be open to airing your views in the media?
GospelFlame : me upset? Nah, im just amazed about how your mind thinks. Such arrogance.
megaflare : such a issue of buying selling map could lead to so much argument, even a jounalist come, cant believe it
xXSINZXx : stop talking about kids!!!
sharf : The journalist got a tip-off from what I suppose is the public/ friend. News journalists thrive on tip-offs.
n34tsd : Hi Han Qing,if an article has to be written, I think the topic shouldn't be about poly students, but I think it should be about THE jc student. Though it is unncessary, but it'll be interesting to read. Just by looking at all the posts in response to Redpony's comments about poly students, we can see that the issue is not really about poly students. It's more on an individual's comments that most poly students are 'mindless, childish, brainless, cannot make it to jc, etc'.If you plan to write it, maybe you can get quotes or your data from the posts in this thread. I'm sure the data present should be quite accurate and substantial, since those people who post comes from a good mix of ITE, poly and university students. Possibly some from the working class as well. However, if you're bounded by rule that primary research (in this case, an interview) is required, then there's little you can do, since the main topic in question doesn't believe that you're a journalist. But it's just as well, there's no point in blowing it up to the public anyway.But it would be interesting to know how people would respond to such comments, especially from people like JC, poly and university lecturers. Who knows, it could create such a stir that it might just be the next big thing in 2006; "The Redpony Saga", or even a topic in the coming GP paper! Haha, i'm just crapping here
sharf : Most people won't think I'm from ITE, someone once PMed me in the game to say that I'm a liar, ITE people English where got so 'powderful'. Such is a stigma often attached to people that is hard to get rid of.. no matter what has been done, some people will still think that one thing is superior to another, when in actual fact it isn't.She's a real journalist, BTW. Check the new paper.
Evean : So can i direct a question to redpony, How about those who qualify to go to JC yet end up going into Poly? What do you say about them?What I feel that people which such thinking now adays is what the govt has brought to us. By streaming. But without streaming, We can't know who is at what standard. But becaue of this streaming, people tend to judge others that "Oh you from EM3 poor bad. lazy" but heck some EM3 students are more hardworking than those EM2 students. Same with express/N(A)/N(T) streams. Its already a mindset. Something like branding. Like what macdonalds do. Branding. =D
InuNiiChan : To Redpony,Wow... You're really harsh on Poly students... Why some students choose to go poly instead of JC? Did it occur to you that there are people who know what they want to do in the future, and they want to learn it in poly immediately, rather then waste their time in a JC? Don't just flame any poly students. I pity the JC that has to accept you into the school. As for not being able to meet the requirements of a JC? Heh, 99.6% of the students in my school qualified for JC. I scored a 9, and I'll still choose poly over JC. Many people going to JC don't know what they're going to do next time. They just study study study --- ask them what they wanna do next time, dunno.In the end, both Poly and JCs have their advantages and disadvantages. Poly teaches pracitcal stuff, to prepare a person for the working world. JC? Well, it's just a continuation from secondary life --- study and study. Just because you can't get a map in maple doesn't mean you have to start shooting your mouth off unnecessarily. If all JC students have such a stinking attitude... Haha, don't even wanna think about it... Yours sincerely,Fantillusion
drbootdisk : waaa .. reporter oso come .. .LOL wanna interview mi? ? XD lol
maybebaby : This is what I think of maple maps....... Ok, imagine you went to watch a movie. Then after the movie, usually a lot of people go to the toilets.Imagine when you get to the toilet, you see a guy/girl standing there saying "Next Floor Pls" But the toilet inside only have 1 or 2 person when there is a lot of cubicles.U go to all floors of the shopping complex and its the same.Ok Now imagine you are inside the toilet and its crowded and all the cubicles are full. U go into the only empty cubicle after the last person finished and unzip your pants, suddenly another person just come in and started unzipping his/her pants. Then you say "Ai, I was here first" Then he/she say "Like real, I was here yesterday..." Then you still stop him/her from using the cubicle and he/she ask all his/her friends and crowd into the cubicle all doing their "business" together.Then you shout for the toilet attendent. They dun care, let you all fight. After all they have to clean up the mess all of you made.I can only say, if you cannot stand the smell, get out of the toilet.
riotgurL : redpony,i couldnt bother "quoting" wad u had said...as there was too much rubbish dat u had said. heard dat u din put in ur ign... ur frens whu know u... i pity dem. ur facts about Jc n poly is SO SO SO wrong. if its not wrong... there wont be any shows or even movies on ITE. did u watched those movies anyway? or did u actually just bury urself in BOOKs. n more books.maybe u r jz stressed. too stressed and arrogant that u din realise your life is such a bore.as a matter of fact, yes, Jc students do score better in 'O' levels. but that's not all of them. there was also a portion who opt to go for poly instead of JC. y? coz they knw wad they wana 'atk' at.n u? study study study... in the end? u will get a CERT. a cert that will get burnt easily. all your knowledge is determined by that pc of paper. even u have the paper. it doesnt mean ur BRAIN and MIND is up to date. u learnt frm the past. learn frm people writes. all dead stuff. its true dat u do still learn n is knowledgeable... bt when it happens in RL. how do u cope? attachments doesnt help...not at all. yes, JC means uni. poly as well. and do u knw if poly students goes up to uni.. it means dat are pretty great... and JCs? well, ppl will jz tink its normal... and for that point.. it means NO IMPROVEMENT. u cant bring a BIG step in ur life to pove ppl wrong.n now... Jc life n poly life. Jc can have fun... bt fun with lotsa stress... poly students have lotsa too... bt u knw the diff? they have an idea abt it n knw how to RELEASE their stress.. playing some games, chilling out, club ..etc. n u? i tink u dont. u jz add stress n stress... bt u still u r v smart when u dont even know how to tackle it. we have lifes. be it social or wad. everythings amzing n fun ard us. u cant just immerse n delude yourself in your own world. thinking that u r so much better then others. u score better in languages,in maths,in subjects...i've seen dat u mentioned those. BUT, i din see u mention..sports, tackling etc. guess its just subjects. imagine when u out with ur frens..do u guys jz chat about alegbra?H2o? do u even have a gf? or do u think gf is just wasting ur time? or u cant get one? if u realli do STUDY HARD enuff. u will knw dat n realise dat... ITS NOT JUST SCHOOL DAT CAN MK U LEARN. world is full of stuff ,full of culture. u cant learn all in ur nxt 30 yrs of sch life. U GOT TO EXPERIENCE IT. someone ask u abt Niagara Falls..u might say..oh its from American Falls,Canadian Falls and Bridal falls.and dat its the last legacy of Ice age and sort of happen 18000yrs ago.den someone asked again,'oh cool! have you been there?' u said No. a adventurer will tell u wad actualli happened and how it realli felt to be there. how are the waters there like... the gush of those..the temperature. the amazing n thrills which u will never ever get from books.super duper long post... to be cont....
riotgurL : .....not to mention.. jobs offers. do u knw that some Uni students end up driving Taxis? coz they are find job? u can find easily... BUT not the high pay dat u expected. knw y? not many bosses wana hire a Uni student when they can hire a poly student with lower pay. They can afford to do so? fresh grads are expensive. and y hire when they can find sumone as gd n reliable with lower pay? so it doesnt mean u can get jobs faster. 2ndly,higher pay? dats MAYBE only. lets say u got lucky and found your job. which it may not even the one u studied for. and get a relatively high pay.with 3mths probation to pass.u studied at least 4 to 5 yrs more den poly grads..maybe more yrs. with dat amount of yrs when u r studying. those poly grads had jolly well work hard n gain so much experience dat they are ady Managers or higher. u never knw. and their pay? same as u. or higher. plus. more reputable.if u the boss, will u hire fresh uni grads, 1mth 20k no experience, or lower education grads,1mth 15k to 20k with ard 3yrs experience.WhO?this post is v long and i shall end it soon.for me, im gg to do business in the future. u may as well.. but we cld jz mk the same amt of $$$. with or without CERT. u knw why? i've got an active brain and creative cells that wun lose to a Jc student. but i cld earn so much more when u are still studying boy. i used my years to experience stuff. u use it for an un foreseen furture. FYI, my dad happen to be in diving business and he pays his divers etc ard 2k per day. n mind u...they din even finish sec sch. alot of uni grads or ppl with lotsa pro diving certs come up to my dad ask for job. bt dad jz dont hire them. y? my dad wants experience.yrs of it.. a cert cant mk sure u wun mk mistakes and able to dive deep enuff. sorry for the long post ppL~ im mainly targeting at redpony..the guy with the wrong mindset. and of coz,if ya someone who thinks like him.. READ THIS POST.oh ya! did i mention dat...if u fail ur JC, its pretty hard for u to go over again? Jc cert is like pri sch PSLE or OLvL. unless u retake..or study priv.. yrs lost again!adiOs!
leonzc : riotgurl....YOUR ROXredpony...pls dun say tt u r smartcus smart includes alot of things1 Characterized by sharp quick thought; bright.2 Amusingly clever; witty: 3 Impertinent; insolent4 Energetic or quick in movement5 Canny and shrewd in dealings with others6 Fashionable; elegant: taken from http://www.dictionary.com/1. you only knows how to refer to old stastic and nth new comes out2. Amusing? i dun think so....3. Insolent.....this i gif it to you..you r full of it4. Energetic? quick in movement.... left to be certified5. Canny and shrewd IN DEALING WITH OTHERS? dun think so....look at the way you bark at us6. fashionable? er....???you passed onli 1 out of 6 criteria....tell mii do u realli think u r smart?
sharf : PS - The article will be out tomorrow, most probably. Go grab it (when it comes out)!
leonzc : which newspaper huh?
sharf : The New Paper. Try to guess my name (if my views were used, that is, and my name is mentioned. Or just post what kind of views were by me, XD. *takes a pin and deflates oversized head*)
riotgurL : haha leon... did i say he was smart? lol..maybe i typo le la.. lol. i was trying to imply..he tink he is smart. and that... its true Jc students will be slightly better in memorising words n stuff .. but nw u listed few pts of 'smart'... i realise he belong to 1 of dem as well.. AMUSING. he is amusing...dun cha tink so? in a way that he amuse everyone abt his weird tots ..and piss dem off.or perhaps, he is trying to amuse in a way to mk ppl tink he is funny. apparently,he failed quite abit. ps; i realise he din realli response to this thread anymore... tell me redpony..have u waken frm ya dream yet?
sharf : Reality bites, hard.Anyway, for my views on the topic, I think it's fairly reasonable. I mean, if the trade goes peacefully and the seller leaves, then it ends well. People coming in to KS, that's another matter altogether.
GeneralSeth : Redpony..... you really have what the Chinese call a "lao tu" mindset.Do the jc teachers force you to think that way? Your superior attitude is making other Jc students look horrible.I should choose to go Poly then,I dont want my mind to look like a Minor Zombie.
SirBay : Medical History: currently suffering from schizophreniaAhbeng side of me talksRedPony, i read your post i hot liao...wah piang you say what... your english very powerful ah... kaoz..powderful more like it..U just portraited yourseld as a Forum poltroon vis-a-vis what you postedPlease la for god's sake stop your puerile thoughts.. they make me sneer at you onliMe from TP law course.. you where bui song u say.. i admit my maths and science might not be as just due to the plain fact that i have not touch it since my Sec sch days..But english ? languages? you want challenge me ma.. i duno whether i might win you la.. but since u so narcissistic.. that means you have the utmost confidence to trash me flat isit? Newpaper wan interview u u siam liao... not coward is wat? How i really talk in real lifeSorry about the ah beng side of me. Gosh, was it crude. Im ashamed seriously. Then again, *ponders* , it deems to be more appropriate to converse to you in such a way vis-a-vis to your attitude. Well, it just practically taints my soul to talk to you in the normal way. Crude and disrespect is what you really deserve. GOodness me, i have not met someone as puerile as you.As the old maxim goes: to err is humanWell, hearing this shouldn't we all as humans make mistakes? Shall we all forgive Redpony for his groundlesS accusations and thoughtS? Maybe you were just to chimerical and thus eager to pin your thoughts down on the forum.Well let me give u some advice.YOUR POSTS WERE GRATITOUSreally, i mean good for you.Need me to extricate you from your illness? ( i think u suffer from lack of attention )Pm : Lordbay. *always there for you* cheers
SirBay : womg... i just wasted my time reading all this posts and giving my views..Kns.. tmoro need wake up early...wah piang pls la redpony .. u hai me okie.. but bo pian.. i see u say poly students asinine i hot liao..Lol nites nites every1
finaldude : Ownageand to the opinion that JC students far outcries the knowledge of poly students is of utter dissapointment.if a JC student with a language base of yours ever getting into a JC in the first place,i fear the lack of intelligence when lil'O you gets into the working force.try being a lawyer with that level of language knowledge."your honor,if my client HoR,kill that bastard then Hor he wont come here liao Right?huh dont kpkb lar Joo!!"hey welcome into the real world when intelligence and logical thinking far outcries the need for wooo BOOKS!!*gasp*
sharf : The report is published in today's The New Paper. I'd be interested to see what the non-gaming public thinks of his comments.It's on pages 2 and 3, btw. You can't miss it.
Rambo2001 : go buy newpaper. huahuaauhahong kan all tio post....
winwin : song bo on newpaper.. grats
SilentKill4r : Firstly it's all based on the players' discretion to buy/sell maps. But logically.. Being MASSIVE Multiplayer ORPG.. Its been stated to be massive players online at the same time... So Ksing is inevitable.. No use discussing.. Cause not everyone bides the LAW or RULES.. Btw I personally feel that maps should not be owned.. You could kindly ask the person to change channel but u cannot make him.. Its not your map.. neither it is the person's so... You should try to share.. Maybe each a corner or what? But please don't make thing seemed so difficult for everyone by spamming insults and doing things like defame or calling friends to disturb the person's training... Btw.. The Definition of KSing - when a person attacks a mob first, and u killed it after. Thats KSing.. But if u realised.. Alot of unintentional KSing has taken place.. Because sometimes you can't see the person there.. So why not just be kind and back off and remind the person gently. It would be so much better? Btw this WAR against poly students show u are immature and ignorant.. No discrimination should be held here.. So what if poly students are not so good in academic results? Some have been proven to be more wise in the ways of life.. If you (Redpony) are so stucked up, i bet you would have problems surviving in such a society.. Eg... Offending people like this could get u hacked... i mean in RL.. KILLED BY A Chopper.. If your identity is exposed.. So whos the smart one or the stupid one now? And please dun call urself a JC-Student.. Because even other JC studens are not on ur side.. so u are not representing all JC student.. Get it? You cretin..
Night : post more leh, maybe can get another article in Straits Times tomorrow
soh89 : JC got books meh? LOL. jc system is based on lectures and tutorial, similar to poly. in fact we only get a few notes that we have to study ourself from our sources. totally pre-u work. and are u trying to say university does not teach us to think logically? den where all the research come from? plagarise frm book n internet? im not against poly but poly are for ppl who have set their aims earlier and have decided what they wanna do next time with their diploma. in fact, poly is more technical den jc and u say jc ppl can't think logically? see who get to university easier. see who get the course of their choice easier. see who have more options next time with a degree and maybe even doctorate compared to diploma.
ppl say u nia u wan beat them up. u trying to show tt all poly students are hooligans like you? compared to the real hooligans out there ur only a baby.
soh89 : ppl can be anywhere. you can be 6-pointer yet u study in polyyou can be 20-pointer yet u wan go lousiest jcit all boils down to how u respect each others choices. there are pros and cons to jc and poly, but if u start to flame about the bad side of the other course, u will get flamed back also. so what if poly get better pay, tt's only the beginning. graduates eventually get even better pay, but they have to afford the long education that they go thru first, whereas poly, even though ex, ppl can start work with a decent salary.also, ppl don't look at ur diploma/degree/cert. its so bloody common that the employers can close one eye can pick out anybody. u have to go thru interviews, and they see ur attitude and ability, plus the results in ur diploma/degree/cert itself. if ur in jc u dun work hard, u dun go to uni and ur time is wasted. if ur in poly u dun work hard lagi best, ur money more wasted. who says jc dun think u to think logically. general paper and project work are key components of university requirements. so many ppl hate it cuz they are forced to think too logically
soh89 : back on topic.this is MapleSEA. south east asia. encompassing mostly of malaysian and singaporeans. majority singaporean. whatever i gonna say later involves only majority of the singaporeans so if ur an exception dun kpkb. our singaporean culture does not teach us how to really respect each other. unlike in japan and JMS where the tradition there is based on mutual respect and harmony, here is just kiasu-ism and wanting to exploit others to get to the very top. so what happens? u get into a zombie map u dun wan to lose it because if u do, u lose both exp and money. everybody wants to train at zombie but there is no space as ppl are hogging the map like crazy. eventually bunch of gl kias will go in ks cuz nobody will be willing to share and even if u walk past, u get a cc pls, which sparks further ks -.- IF wizet were to release ludi, i think the problem would be mostly solved. the high levels move out of zombies into bain, whereas bainers move into vikings. more helios will be dropped so i can get one for myself =x. less crowded at zombie and more ppl can use the map to train. furthermore maybe its the wrong time to release 2x EXP card when majority are at lvl 5x, reaching lvl 6x. the demand for zombie map will rise like crazy, and as more ppl approach lv 9x, bain gets clogged and no choice still have to stick to zombie. no map, got card, our poor attitude and dun wan to share, a useless swimming pool under orbis tower: KS at zombie map and this thread.
Foxmaniac : Well...all i can say is that redpony sounds more like a three year old rather than a jc student. JC and poly...what's the difference? JC focus more on studies while poly helps u adapt faster to the work force.
me0wie : notice tt the redpony guy is gone? hahahhahaa, he's better not ever let ANYONE find out his ign in game, otherwise, he shall DIE IN HELL!Hasn't he realized that tertiary education concludes JC, Poly, etc. And a poly student actually earns more compared to a JC student. If you graduate from poly, u have a DIploma. If you graduate from JC without going to Uni, you have NOTHING.
XuHuang : Must post in legendary topic. Now that that has been settled, let me make one thing clear first.REDPONY, YOU SIR, ARE GOING TO BURN IN A LAKE OF FIREAlright. I feel that buying and selling maps is an atrociously stupid system. Whoever even thought of such a stupid idea should be shot where it hurts most. Anyone following this will just spread it even more, letting others think it is alright to deal maps.This is just like the "oi dun kil baby sliem lol bad item i kik u" thing, which sparked from one stupid moron. Just one person alone can screw up everything by making other weak minded people follow.So, in all, people who follow this rule should die. If you need to train at zombies, learn to share or go somewhere else. ===About the Poly/JC argument, again sparked of by a single nincompoop, I feel that each will take their own sides, so here's what I have to say.You are all stupid. Especially you redpony, whose name does not follow the proper naming conventions. What kind of male likes ponies anyway? You wanna hump a pony? Once again, I hope you burn, burn in the flames of your own stupidity.I say what I want, the end.
demonboi : End up in newspaper eh?Pls mr redpony...come on..wads the use of calling poly childish,immature..bla bla bla..will u gain anything in return???you're onli making a fool out of yourself..Thats what i called "childish and immature"
Terroz : Wah, quarrel until offtopic, now attacks from a so called SMART jc student on poly. Well its only a path for students to choose.Anyway, back to the topic. Most people who do NOT support the buying and selling of map do not train at zombie, most people do NOT know the high demand of zombie maps. I use to train there too, it use to be around 400k max for a map 4, now it can soar as high as 1 million. If there isnt such an "ownership" of map where by it follows the saying of "first come first serve", then maple would be in total chaos. There would be disrupted gameplay and there would be several people hitting in every maps (not only zombie). If you just start hitting at "others" map, they might call friends, guilds down to chase you everywhere around maple and make sure you cannot train. Whats the point? Follow the unofficial rules of Buying and Selling of maps and you would be a good maple citizen. Those that discourages buying and selling of maps, maybe someday i would track you guys and see if youre alone at the map. Maybe i could bring lots of strangers to train together with you? =D cheers (thats not a blackmail, not is it a threten, its just an opinion from MY point of view)
sharf : Wonder what Asiasoft is going to to with all this publicity, afterall, it did start right here. All the mods have been busy moving the threads related to the article to the Others section.
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seems like many people are standing against that redpony.
not surprising as a poly student myself, i feel angry with what he commented about poly students.
i mean, he certainly doesnt have the right and status to comment such stuff.
glad i chose poly life! =)
p.s. thanks for ur patience to finish this entry. i just copied and paste so sorry for the spelling/grammar errors!
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